It is easy, when driving in automatic mode, to accidently touch one of the paddle shifters. In doing so, the automatic transmission disengages, and the transmission suddenly switches to control by the paddle shifters. If the driver is unaware of this, the vehicle can lose motive power if the gear then in effect is no longer fitting for the vehicles speed and the engine's RPM. I recently took the vehicle in for service of this issue because my wife had experienced this while driving on Interstate 95, in Maryland. The vehicle stopped responding to the accelerator, so she pulled onto the shoulder, put the vehicle in park and turned it off. When she turned it back on, it was back in automatic mode, and she was able to resume driving. The technician and service manager advised that when this occurs, the vehicle can be returned to automatic mode by pulling the right paddle forward. That information does not appear in the vehicle manual, or on the Jeep website. The technician and service manager also advised that there is no way to disable the paddles to prevent the problem from repeating, Other drivers have experienced this. See [XXX] . I believe it is a serious safety problem. To that point, there is a pending safety recall -- the federal safety agency 23V- 412 (copy attached) -- that addresses loss of motive power for another reason. Here is the description in the recall notice: The transmission control module and the hybrid control processor on your vehicle [1] may experience loss of communication caused by diagnostic reactions to faults resulting in an engine shut down condition. Engine shut down may result in an unexpected loss of motive power while driving, which can cause a vehicle crash without prior warning. The sudden enabling of the paddle shifter and resulting loss of motive power is also a safety issue that needs prompt attention. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe transmission complaints
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The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The contact stated that after driving the vehicle for approximately one hour, there was a knocking sound coming from the front of the vehicle. A knocking sound was heard while depressing the brake pedal. The contact stated that the sound ceased after shifting to park. The cause of the failure was not yet determined. The contact stated that the failure had occurred after a computer update was performed as part of a Service Campaign. No additional information was available. The failure mileage was 10,000.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The contact stated while driving at 64 MPH, the vehicle failed to accelerate then the vehicle lost motive power. The vehicle was towed to the dealer and diagnosed with a transmission failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and a case was opened. The failure mileage was approximately 22,000.
RE: 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4Xe (hybrid) This complaint involves a well-known defect and malfunction endemic to the Jeep Wrangler 4Xe with the identical powertrain and software, and a well-documented recall of the Jeep Wrangler, but for some reason, does not yet extend to the Grand Cherokee 4Xe model for identical symptoms and malfunction behavior. The associated recall for the Wrangler is the federal safety agency campaign number: 22V865000. FCA US, LLC’s number for this recall ZB7, however the Grand Cherokee with the identical powertrain-- has yet to be recalled, however has the same defective issues. This is brand new off-the-showroom 2022 Grand Cherokee 4Xe, and the malfunctioning behavior began within the first 10 days-- at 179 miles (3/4 tank of fuel), with the vehicle going into the FORM (Fuel/Oil Refresh Mode), depriving the vehicle of electric mode or electric assist. The vehicle message stated: "Electric Mode Temporarily Unavailable - Fuel & Oil Refresh in Progress" Other dangerous symptoms and malfunctions associated with the defective/malfunctioning software have occurred: (a) A single instance of a "limp-home" mode (25 mph max on a main thoroughfare), and; (b) several instances of failure of the transmission to shift into a higher gear-- causing the engine to over-rev (over max redline RPM) to maintain a highway speed). At 331 miles, the vehicle was refueled for the first time, and the FORM warning message disappeared with the fresh refuel, however the vehicle hasn't been driven enough to determine of the transmission issues were resolved with the refuel. Nonetheless, the FORM was a malfunction that occurred at 3/4 tank with only 179 miles on the vehicle, and the other malfunctions are presumed to be associated with the primary defect. The video of the "shift malfunction" incidents can be viewed on Google photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/EMqaZ5ZotkVgu6UJ7 and https://photos.app.goo.gl/LYPytX73fzj9JRq3A
Having less than 3K miles in the odometer, the engine started to develop valve train noise that worsens as the engine gets hotter, taken to the dealership to check on the concern plus no start, had the battery replaced after staying 3 weeks in the dealership, supposedly the noise was normal, took it to another dealership as the first one left a few things not fixed, once again i was told the noise was normal, The noise started to get louder as miles were being put on the car, people would ask if the car was a diesel powered one, even the service advisor of the dealership were the car remains asked me if the engine was diesel when she heard the noise. At idling speed the engine is not running smoothly you can hear cylinders misfiring on the exhaust, oil temp remains over 240 when driven, 245 just by pressing the gas to pass a car, oil pressure at idling speed has gone lower as time goes by reaching at times 28 psi. Noise varies when the engine switches in between 8 cyl or 4 cyl mode, in 4 cyl mode the whole car vibrates really bad and loud until you hit the gas to get the engine out of the 4 cyl mode. Service engine light came on once at idling speed when the idling speed became erratic. Engine stalled once. Car in the dealership since Jan 23 2023, was called exactly one month later to pick it up as per they report everything was ok, asked to try another one with the same engine mine has so i could hear the "normal" noise, they had none to check, the shop foreman went on a test ride with me to confirm the issue and then he acknowledged that the noise was weird, so i was asked to leave it, two months already went by and so far no word on the issue, the car has not being further diagnosed by the 'ENGINE EXPERT" will have to go through the lemon law as they just don't say a word or give me options. Grand Cherokee Summit reserve 5.7 Hemi engine. as of today 3/29/2023 still not diagnosed
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle hesitated upon depression of the accelerator pedal. There was no warning light illuminated. The dealer was notified of the failure and a software update was performed on the vehicle. The contact stated that several months after the software update, the vehicle failed to start up after multiple attempts. The vehicle was towed to the dealer where and remained in dealer possession. The vehicle was not yet diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 12,000.
The vehicle has had a transmission replaced, a transfer case replaced, and the problem still exists and is considered normal. When the vehicle is going through the gears, you hear gear-shifting noises and a shudder.
The contact owns a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The contact stated while driving 20 MPH, the vehicle was vibrating. The vehicle was taken to the dealer however, no failure was found. The contact stated that the tread on the driver’s and passenger’s side front tires were extremely worn. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and a case was filed. The failure mileage was 100.
This is my Personal Assessment: My vehicle didn't visit the dealer yet and there are no warning lights of any kind and the answer to all the above bullets is NO. Two main issues, 1) Intermittently, when press the gas pedal from idle stop @ traffic light, you will the engine revs but the vehicle either doesn't move or move very slow. In either case, relasing gas and pressing again remediate the situation. This occasional can produce a dangeourous situation and put lives to risk. 2) the second issue is regarding Active Driving Assist System ADAS, also occasionally when the system is all green, steering wheel and all, and ahead of me there is 1/4 of a mile to red traffic light and the road is open for me. I am driving about 50 miles, now approaching the stopped traffic, and suddenly the vehicle start to speed up when it was slowing down for the traffic a moment ago. Something very unusual, I abruptly press the brake to force manual stop. The car then doesn't show this symptom for a few days but occasionally it comes back again.
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