Reproducible critical bug: When Autopilot disengages shortly after being engaged due to the user steering, it sounds the engagement chime, then the disengagement chime, then incorrectly sounds the engagement chime a second time. From the user's perspective, Autopilot is engaged. However, Autopilot is not actually engaged. If the user is signalling to re-engage immediately after some minor maneuver, this can cause the user to reasonably believe that Autopilot is engaged when it is not active, resulting in a high risk of collision. This is a highly dangerous bug in Autopilot. I have reproduced this bug three times in three days accidentally. This needs emergency action on Tesla's part to prevent death or serious injury. Software version 2026.38.5.11 FSD version 14.3 Lite
2017 Tesla Model X driver assistance problems
49 complaints (18% of all complaints for this car). Typical mileage when it fails: 21,280. 8 crashes reported.
- owner complaints
- 49
- of this car's complaints
- 18%
- typical mileage
- 21,280
- crashes
- 8
- recalls
- 1
Which part fails
- Adaptive cruise control23
- Automatic emergency braking15
- Warnings9
- Assist9
- Warning4
- Sensing system: camera3
- Rearview system braking3
- Blind spot detection3
At what mileage
Complaints by mileage at the time of the problem.
Tesla Model X driver assistance problems in other years
Specific symptoms reported on the 2017 Tesla Model X driver assistance
Phrases found in the owners' own descriptions, so one complaint can mention several symptoms.
Related recalls
Forward collision avoidance: sensing system: camera
- What is wrong
- Tesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling certain 2017-2021 Model S, Model 3, Model X, and 2020-2021 Model Y vehicles operating software version 2021.36.5.2. A communication error may cause false forward-collision warning (FCW) or unexpected activation of the automatic emergency brake (AEB) system.
- Risk
- Unexpected activation of the AEB system may cause the car to stop suddenly, increasing the risk of a crash.
- Remedy
- Tesla Service has released an over-the-air (OTA) software update, free of charge. The recall began October 25, 2021. Owners may contact Tesla customer service at 1‑877‑798‑3752. Tesla's number for this recall is SB-21-00-004.
Recall number 21V846000 · Recall details
Related investigations
Loss of rearview camera
On November 20, 2020, the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) opened Engineering Analysis (EA) 20-003 to investigate incidents of media control unit (MCU) failures resulting in loss of rearview camera in model year (MY) 2012-18 Tesla Model S and model year (MY) 2016-2018 Tesla Model X vehicles equipped with the NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor with an integrated 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device. During its investigation, ODI learned that the expected usage life rating for the 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device is approximately 3,000 “P/E” or Program-Erase cycles, after which the eMMC NAND flash memory device would become fully consumed and no longer be operational, leading to a failure of the media control unit (MCU). At a daily cycle usage rate of 1.4 per block, accumulation of 3,000 P/E cycles would take only 5-6 years. Historically, the expected life of a vehicle generally far exceeds 5-6 years of service. ODI believes that a 5- or 6-year life expectancy for a component integral to providing the driver with safety functions is insufficient. During our review of the data, Tesla provided confirmation that all units will inevitably fail given the memory device’s finite storage capacity. Tesla provided its own statistical model showing the number of projected weekly MCU repairs from 2020 to 2028, estimating that replacement rates for MCU failures will peak in early 2022 and gradually decline until (near) full part turnover has been accomplished in 2028. According to Tesla, for subject vehicles equipped with the NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor with an integrated 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device, the eMMC NAND cell hardware will fail when reaching lifetime wear, for which the eMMC controller has no available memory blocks necessary to recover. With this failure mode, the only recovery available is a replacement of the eMMC device, achieved by physical part replacement of either the MCU assembly or visual control module subcomponent. Tesla provided information concerning the effects of MCU failure on vehicle function, which include in loss of rearview/backup camera and loss of HVAC (defogging and defrosting) setting controls (if the HVAC status was OFF status prior to failure). The failure also affects the Autopilot advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) and turn signal functionality due to the possible loss of audible chimes, driver sensing, and alerts associated with these vehicle functions. Based on this analysis, ODI issued a Recall Request Letter (RRL) on January 13, 2021. The RRL was based on ODI’s tentative conclusion that a defect related to motor vehicle safety exists in the subject vehicles because the eMMC NAND flash devices have a finite lifespan based upon the number of program/erase (P/E) cycles, after which the MCU fails due to memory wear-out, which constitutes a premature failure of safety-critical part. Tesla responded to the Recall Request Letter (RRL) on January 27, 2021, and disputed the tentative findings of the RRL. Nevertheless, on January 29, 2021, Tesla filed a safety recall (21V‑035), recalling (MY) 2012-2018 Tesla Model S and (MY) 2016-2018 Model X vehicles with a center display equipped with a NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor and an 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device. In this recall, Tesla is providing a free hardware remedy in addition to the over-the-air (“OTA”) firmware updates that the company had previously implemented. the federal safety agency will continue to monitor the issue as part of its ordinary processes for overseeing the effectiveness of recalls. However, based on available information, at this time, Tesla’s recall appears to address the unreasonable risk to motor safety presented by the premature failure of the component. Accordingly, the investigation is closed. To review the ODI reports cited in the Closing Resume ODI Report Identification Number document, go to
EA20003
Loss of rearview camera
On June 22, 2020, the Office of Defects Investigations (ODI) opened Preliminary Evaluation PE20-010 to investigate incidents of media control unit (MCU) failures resulting in loss of rearview camera in model year (MY) 2012-2015 Tesla Model S vehicles equipped with the NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor with an integrated 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device. EMMC NAND flash devices have a finite lifespan based upon the number of program/erase (P/E) cycles. The subject MCU allegedly fails prematurely due to memory wear-out of the eMMC NAND flash. Tesla used the same MCU with the Tegra 3 processor in approximately 159 thousand 2012-2018 Model S and 2016-2018 Model X vehicles built by Tesla through early-2018. In response to ODI's Information Request (IR) for PE20-010, Tesla provided ODI with 2,399 complaints and field reports, 7,777 warranty claims, and 4,746 non-warranty claims related to MCU replacements. The data show failure rates over 30 percent in certain build months and accelerating failure trends after 3 to 4 years-in-service.According to Tesla, for subject vehicles equipped with the NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor with an integrated 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory device, the eMMC NAND cell hardware can fail when reaching lifetime wear, for which the eMMC controller has no available blocks to recover. With this failure mode, the only recovery available is a replacement of the eMMC device, achieved by physical part replacement of either the MCU assembly or visual control module subcomponent. Tesla provided the effects of MCU failure on vehicle function which result in loss of rearview/backup camera, loss of HVAC (defogging) setting controls (if the HVAC status was OFF status prior to failure.) There is also an impact on the advanced driver assistance support (ADAS) Autopilot system, and turn signal functionality due to the possible loss of audible chimes, driver sensing, and alerts associated with these vehicle functions. There are precedents for addressing defects that result in loss of either backup camera, defogging, or turn signal functions under safety recalls.Tesla has implemented certain Over-The-Air or OTA updates to subject vehicles to mitigate the effects of MCU failure. These updates include firmware changes to reduce memory usage of the subject memory card, improve eMMC error correction and storage management strategies, changing the control logic for turn signal activation, and defaulting the HVAC system to Auto (71.6F) for drives after MCU failure to address windshield defogging. Tesla indicated that the MCU failures are likely to continue to occur in subject vehicles as vehicles continue to operate and use available memory in the 8GB eMMC NAND flash memory until 100% of units have failed. This investigation has been upgraded to an Engineering Analysis (EA20-003). The VOQs associated with the upgrade of this investigation are identified in the attachment to this resume.
PE20010
What 2017 Tesla Model X owners say
Most recent owner complaints, unedited.
Power Steering Assist stopped working while on the road. A couple days later, power steering stopped working completely.
The autopilot ECU failed on my car per Tesla. There was no warning on the car that my safety features were disabled. This is also reported online as a common issue and Tesla is charging $2k to repair a safety computer. The computer was advertised as two chips as a failsafe but that was not the case as both failed on my car. I suspect this software updates broke the computer as well and not at fault from the customer
The rear camera freezes when backing up the car. The issue is noted in the latest model years but this issues applies to this model year as well. Please issue a safety recall. Thank you.
The rear camera failed as I tried to reverse into a parking spot. the whole system froze up and took over 20+ second to finally load happened twice in one day
When driving my car last Friday evening at ~5:45pm PST, I was about 1 mile away from home when alerts popped up on my car including- "Regenerative breaking unavailable", "ABS disabled", "Stability Control disabled", "Traction Control disabled", "Steering Assist reduced", "Automatic Emergency Braking is Unavailable" Front Passenger Safety Restraint System Fault" "Park Assist Unavailable". I drove the last mile to my house and when I pulled into my garage my gear shift would not work to put my car into park. I tried to then do a "soft reset" by holding both buttons on the steering wheel down, and this would not work. I frantically called the nearest Tesla service center and after 20 min the person there told me there wasn't anything they could help me with and gave me the number for Tessa Roadside Assistance. This whole time I had to have my foot on the break pedal to keep my car from moving forward and going through my garage wall into my house. I was on hold with Tesla Roadside assistance awaiting an answer for another 30min, and after talking with an agent he told me to "find a large rock to put under my tires to prevent the car from moving forward", this wasn't a feasible option as I was alone with a 12 year old girl, there are also not any large rocks near my garage. Tesla service then connected me with a towing agency, but let me know that since my car warranty only covers my battery and drive train, I would have to pay for the tow out of pocket. The tow truck driver came about 20 minutes later, so at this point I was sitting in my garage with my foot on the break pedal for well over an hour. There was no way that anyone could power off the car or get it into another gear other than drive. There was no way to access the 12v batter and disconnect the car since I couldn't open my frunk as the car was not in park. without the assistance of a tow truck I could have been stuck in my car for hours holding the break pedal.
Tesla has failed to update the software on the car as per the recall notice. Tesla is requesting me to pay 2500$ to upgrade the hardware so they can update the recall hardware. I had reached out to Tesla more than three different times and been waiting for more than 4 months for Tesla to provide the resolution for recall which Tesla has failed to provide as yet t no cost. This is a major safely concerns and due to this I am afraid to drive this car.
While driving CA-17, as is frequently the case, I had to disengage automatic steering several times to correct its poor lane keeping. Much to my surprise, the vehicle stopped maintaining speed, creating a dangerous situation with vehicles behind me as the uphill road caused the vehicle to rapidly decelerate the second I turned the wheel. After experimentation, I discovered that Tesla has completely removed cruise control capabilities from these vehicles unless you completely disable the FSD beta functionality, which makes this vehicle highly unsafe to drive in any environment where autosteer is inadequate, including CA-17. Further, this isn't just unsafe on weird highways. This poor decision on Tesla's part could very easily cause rear-end collisions on freeways. Nobody in their right minds would expect a vehicle to suddenly massively decelerate just because you correct its poor steering. This is just plain DANGEROUS. This so-called "Full Self Driving (Supervised)" version needs to be recalled immediately, and Tesla MUST be forced to make cruise control fallback available regardless of the FSD state. Until they do, it is fundamentally unsafe to allow Tesla vehicles to remain on public highways and freeways with FSD (Supervised) enabled.
This is regarding two Tesla recalls: - the federal safety agency Recall Number: 23V‑838; TC2023-657 - the federal safety agency Recall Number: 24V‑051 As noted in both recalls, they are to be delivered via software updates. My car is currently running version 2022.8.10.16 7477b4ff8e78 which is clearly lower than the version required for both recalls. I have taken my car to service as my software version is not updating. Tesla has refused to comply with the recall and update the software version on my car. It should be noted, although irrelevant for the recalls, that my car is still under manufacturer's extended warranty, which we purchased along with the car when buying it new from Tesla.
I received a notice from Tesla for recall No. 23V‑838 for my 2017 Tesla Model X - P100D. The notice states that I should check if my software version is "2023.44.30" or a later release. Unfortunately, the 2017 Model X is on a different update schedule, as it has different computer and sensor systems than newer Model X's. My software version is from 2022. Accordingly, the recall was not remedied by Tesla for my vehicle and all other older Teslas with the prior sensor suite. I checked for any software updates but none was available. At the very least, the notice is deficient, as if they pushed a separate update for older model Teslas, it was not communicated therein. Thanks!
Questions about the 2017 Tesla Model X driver assistance
Does the 2017 Tesla Model X have driver assistance problems?
Owners have filed 49 complaints about the driver assistance of the 2017 Tesla Model X, 18% of all its complaints.
At what mileage do 2017 Tesla Model X driver assistance problems start?
The typical (median) mileage in owner complaints is 21,280 miles.
Was there a recall on the 2017 Tesla Model X driver assistance?
Yes, 1 recall: 21V846000. Check your VIN to see if your car still needs the free repair.
What year does the Tesla Model X have the most driver assistance problems?
The Tesla Model X model years with the most driver assistance complaints are 2017 (49 complaints), 2016 (47 complaints) and 2020 (37 complaints).
Other 2017 Tesla Model X problems
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