I received a notice (the federal safety agency campaign id number : 10v177) yesterday regarding stoplamp failure on thomas c2 buses. Our school district has experienced a similar problem of intermittent stoplamp operation on one of our 2009 hdx thomas buses. A resistor (not shown on thomas wiring diagrams) was placed in the wire from the stoplamp switch and was defective.
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Recalls 6
Engine and engine cooling: engine
- What is wrong
- Daimler trucks north america is recalling certain model year 2005 through 2012 freightliner m2, sterling acterra, 7500 & 8500, and thomas built hdx vehicles manufactured from june 23, 2004, through march 15, 2011, equipped with specific mbe900 epa04 and epa07 model engines. The intake air grid heater may short circuit and fail due to excessive internal temperatures.
- Risk
- A short circuited grid heater could result in a vehicle fire and injury to vehicle occupants.
- Remedy
- Daimler trucks will notify owners, and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. Repairs will be performed by detroit diesel corporation authorized repair facilities. The safety recall began on september 12, 2011. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1‑800‑547‑0712. This recall is an expansion of a previous recall, campaign number 10v‑341.
Recall number 11V455000 · Recall details
Engine and engine cooling
- What is wrong
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2011 fccc b2 106 ch and thomas built saf-t-liner c2 and hdx school buses manufactured from september 5, 2006 through june 30, 2010, equipped with specific mbe900 epa04 and epa07 model engines. The intake air grid heater may short circuit and fail due to excessive internal temperatures.
- Risk
- A short circuited grid heater could result in a vehicle fire and injury to vehicle occupants.
- Remedy
- Daimler trucks will notify owners and dealers will repair the buses free of charge. Repairs will be performed by detroit diesel corporation authorized repair facilities. The safety recall is expected to begin on or about july 29, 2011. Owners may contact daimler trucks toll-free at 1‑800‑547‑0712.
Recall number 10V340000 · Recall details
Electrical system: wiring
- What is wrong
- Dtna is recalling certain model year 2009 and 2010 hdx school buses manufactured on november 15, 2007 through june 15, 2009. The heater coolant flow valve actuator 0-ring may allow coolant leakage into the heater core compartment and the actuator pc board area potentially causing the actuator to overheat and/or melt.
- Risk
- An overheated and/or melted actuator may result in a vehicle fire.
- Remedy
- Dtna will notify owners and repairs will be performed by thomas built dealerships free of charge. The safety recall began on july 6, 2010. Owners may contact thomas built at 1‑336‑889‑4871.
Recall number 10V183000 · Recall details
Electrical system: wiring
- What is wrong
- Dtna is recalling certain model year 2009 and 2010 hdx non school buses manufactured beginning november 20, 2007 through may 8, 2009. The heater coolant flow valve actuator 0-ring may allow coolant leakage into the heater core compartment and the actuator pc board area potentially causing the actuator to overheat and/or melt.
- Risk
- An overheated and/or melted actuator may result in a vehicle fire.
- Remedy
- Dtna will notify owners and repairs will be performed by thomas built dealerships free of charge. The safety recall began on july 6, 2010. Owners may contact thomas built at 1‑336‑889‑4871.
Recall number 10V184000 · Recall details
Other: school bus stop arm assembly
- What is wrong
- Daimler trucks is recalling certain model year 2009-2010 thomas built school buses manufactured between march 31, 2008 and february 18, 2009, equipped with specialty manufacturing, inc. (smi) 000290 LED light kits. A change to the wire used in the LED light kits may reduce the effective life of the lights used on the stop arms. The lights may stop functioning without warning.
- Risk
- Should the LED lights stop functioning, visibility of a stopped bus would be decreased, possibly endangering a child or pedestrian to injury by passing vehicles.
- Remedy
- Thomas built will notify owners and light kits will be replaced free of charge. The safety recall began on february 3, 2010. Owners may contact thomas built at 1‑800‑547‑0712.
Recall number 09V394000 · Recall details
Electrical system: wiring: fuses and circuit breakers
- What is wrong
- Daimler trucks is recalling 18,198 my 2003-2009 thomas built er, mvp-er, hdx, and mvp-ef school and transit buses equipped with a dual power switch and manufactured from february 1, 2002 through october 17, 2008. Solid state circuit breakers may trip unnecessarily potentially resulting in a loss of power to the bus chassis and body electrical circuits causing an unexpected loss of engine power and exterior lighting.
- Risk
- Unexpected loss of engine power and exterior lighting could result in a vehicle crash.
- Remedy
- Thomas built bus dealers will replace the solid state dual power switch with a mechanical circuit production (mega fuse). The recall is expected to begin during april 2009. Owners may contact thomas built at 1‑336‑889‑4871.
Recall number 08V622000 · Recall details
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Defect investigations
Dash Fires
This investigation was opened after ODIlearned of two dash fires that occurred on model year 2008 rear engine school buses.This investigation was opened to further study these fires and assess the risk. On April 30, 2010, Daimler filed a defect report concerning this matter. School buses built between November 15, 2007, through June 15, 2009, and non-school buses built between November 20, 2007, through May 8, 2009 will have thedash heater actuator replaced with a more robust actuator to prevent leakage of coolant. This safety recall resolves the issue raised by this investigation and this investigation is closed.
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Technical service bulletins for the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX 85
Bulletins tell dealers how to fix known problems. A warranty extension means the manufacturer pays for that repair for longer.
- Thomas Built Buses Product Awareness Bulletin on Improved Through Lugg Compt Dr
- SS:1034175 tbb
- Service Bulletin Paper Copy Mailings Are Discontinued
- Service Information Bulletin- Oil Present at the Turbocharger Compressor Housing
- Service Solution: 1033968 TBB Warning Lights, One Side Flashes Faster than the Other
- Service Solution 1033857 TBB Floor Covering Bubbles
- 14CSA23 csc
- Service Solution SS 1033208TBB TM21 Dual AC alignment and not seate...
- 16-011
- 16TS7 Reman Diesel Particulate Filter Serial Number
What 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX owners say
Most recent owner complaints, unedited.
1. After driving the 2009 thomas hdx bus for a couple of hours, driver was bringing the bus to a stop, and before he activated the doors or any other electrical accessories, he saw smoke coming up from the dash in front of the steering wheel. He reported the smoke coming from the top of the dash near the windshield, not from the bottom of the dash and not from the vent located above the switch panel to the left of the operator's seat. Driver shut the bus off. Approx. 5-10 minutes later, smoke was seen coming from the operator's window and the open folding doors. Flames were observed burning across the inside of the front of the bus. Fire department notified, arrived in approx. 5-10 minutes and extinguished the fire. 2. Bus was determined to be a total loss. 3. Investigation to determine origin and cause of the fire indeterminate as to specific component in the circuit breaker area; however thomas subsequently issued a recall.
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Questions about the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX
Is the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX reliable?
Owners have filed 2 complaints about the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX, close to a typical HDX model year.
What is the most common problem with the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX?
Electrical system, with 1 complaint. Next is lights (1).
How many recalls does the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX have?
6 recalls, covering engine and engine cooling, electrical system and other.
Was there a recall on the 2009 Thomas Built Buses HDX electrical?
Yes, 3 recalls: 10V183000, 10V184000, 08V622000. Check your VIN to see if your car still needs the free repair.
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