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2005 Blue Bird All American problems

The most common problem on the 2005 Blue Bird All American is steering. It has fewer complaints than a typical All American model year.

Typical yearClose to a typical year
Owner complaints
1
Recalls
13
Service bulletins
8
Worst area
Steering

The worst 2005 Blue Bird All American problems

Ranked by number of owner complaints. Mileage and cost come from what owners wrote.

  • Steering
    1

Problems by type

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  • Steering
    1

Recalls 13

SeatsReported August 13, 2009 · 37,095 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Blue bird is recalling certain model year 2004 through 2010 all american, vision, micro bird, and conventional school buses manufactured between january 30, 2003 and may 7, 2009. Incorrect offset leg barrier pads or 2/3 seat back pads may have been installed. Buses with incorrect pads installed fail to conform to the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 222, "school bus passenger seating and crash protection."
Risk
In the event of a crash, there is an increased risk of injury to the seat occupant(s).
Remedy
Blue bird will notify owners and the buses will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on september 18, 2009. Owners may contact blue bird at 1‑478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 09V328000 · Recall details

Electrical system: ignitionReported June 9, 2009 · 2,203 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Blue bird is recalling 2,203 model year 2003 through 2010 all american rear engine school buses equipped with optional plug style vandal locks manufactured from july 16, 2003 through april 10, 2009. The plug style vandal lock is not wired to inhibit the starter at the ignition switch when the vandal lock is in the locked position. These buses fail to conform to the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 217, "bus emergency exits and window retention and release."
Risk
The vehicles can be started and driven even when an owner may think they cannot.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify owners and repair the buses free of charge. The safety recall began on june 25, 2009. Owner may contact blue bird at 1‑478‑422‑2242.

Recall number 09V205000 · Recall details

Structure: body: roof and pillarsReported May 20, 2008 · 23,464 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Blue bird is recalling 23,464 my 2005 through 2009 all american and vision school and transit model buses manufactured from january 22, 2004, and march 28, 2008, and my 2004 through 2007 all american school buses and conventional model school buses manufactured from march 6, 2003, through june 16, 2006. The rivet pattern may be incorrect in sections of the rear roof sheet joint that attaches to the rear roof cap. Without the appropriate amount of roof rivets, the buses fail to conform with the requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no 221, "joint strength."
Risk
In the event of a crash, these panels may separate exposing the occupants to increased risk of injury.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify owners and inspect and repair the buses by adding additional rivets. The recall began on september 18, 2008. Owners may contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 08V229000 · Recall details

Engine and engine cooling: engine: dieselReported February 21, 2008 · 607 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Blue bird is recalling 607 my 2004-2007 all american rear engine school buses and my 2006-2007 xcel 102 commercial series transit buses equipped with cummins isc engines. The high pressure fuel line may crack, allowing high pressure diesel fuel into the engine compartment.
Risk
This condition creates the potential for a risk of fire in the engine compartment should the atomized diesel fuel vapor contact an ignition source.
Remedy
Owners will be advised to contact their cummins dealers to have the repair work performed as soon as possible. The recall began on february 28, 2008. Owners may contact blue bird at 1‑478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 08V077000 · Recall details

Electrical system: 12v/24v/48v batteryReported August 31, 2005 · 5,863 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain 2001 through 2006 my blue bird all american, tc2000, and vision transit school buses manufactured between january 5, 2001, and july 15, 2005. These buses are equipped with a battery disconnect switch that has connections that may be loose on the battery switch studs creating the potential for the bus to shut down while in operation.
Risk
Should the bus shut down while in operation, a vehicle crash could occur.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its owners and instruct them on how to repair the switch. The recall began on october 19 , 2005. Owners may contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 05V382000 · Recall details

Other: school bus stop arm assemblyReported May 20, 2005 · 8,894 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain school buses originally sold in or currently registered in the following states: alaska, colorado, connecticut, delaware, idaho, illinois, indiana, iowa, kansas, kentucky, maine, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, minnesota, missouri, montana, nebraska, nevada, new hampshire, new jersey, new mexico, new york, north dakota, ohio, oregon, pennsylvania, rhode island, south dakota, tennessee, utah, vermont, virginia, washington, west virginia, wisconsin, wyoming, and the district of columbia. In extremely cold weather, the microswitches used internally to position the stop arm sign in the open and closed positions may malfunction, causing the sign to open or close in an improper position, or to not open at all.
Risk
Should the stop arm not perform properly, a child or pedestrian may be endangered by passing vehicles should the motorist not stop at the correct location.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its customers and replace the original switch with a switch pack that is not sensitive to extreme cold weather and will inspect to ensure the microswitch heater wiring is properly connected free of charge. The recall began on august 12, 2005. Owners may contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 05V239000 · Recall details

Other: school bus stop arm assemblyReported May 20, 2005 · 3,121 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain blue bird 2002 through 2006 my all american, conventional, minibird, microbird, vision, and tc2000 school buses originally sold in or currently registered in states other than the following states: alaska, colorado, connecticut, delaware, idaho, illinois, indiana, iowa, kansas, kentucky, maine, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, minnesota, missouri, montana, nebraska, nevada, new hampshire, new jersey, new mexico, new york, north dakota, ohio, oregon, pennsylvania, rhode island, south dakota, tennessee, utah, vermont, virginia, washington, west virginia, wisconsin, wyoming, and the district of columbia. In extremely cold weather, the microswitches used internally to position the sign in the open and closed positions may malfunction, causing the sign to open or close in an improper position, or to not open at all.
Risk
Should the stop arm not perform properly, a child or pedestrian may be endangered by passing motorists should the motorist not stop at the correct location.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify all its customers of this campaign. For those buses operated in or near any of the states listed above, blue bird is encouraging the bus owners to obtain the replacement switch. For those buses operated in the warmer states, blue bird will replace the switch upon owner request. For those customers who request the remedy, blue bird will replace the original switch with a switch pack that is not sensitive to extreme cold weather and will inspect to ensure the microswitch heater wiring is properly connected. The safety improvement campaign began on august 12, 2005. Owners may contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 05V251000 · Recall details

Vehicle speed controlReported April 7, 2005 · 486 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain 2001 through 2005 all american, commercial series, and q-bus school and transit buses equipped with john deere 8.1 cng engines. The subject buses equipped with the john deere engines may surge inappropriately due to erractic operation of the air throttle if the engine is taken from full to zero load.
Risk
Unexpected engine surge could result in a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in personal injury.
Remedy
John deere will notify blue bird's customers and repair the engines free of charge. Customers are being instructed to contact john deere at 1-800-jd-engine.

Recall number 05V152000 · Recall details

Engine and engine coolingReported March 1, 2005 · 416 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain 2002-2006 my blue bird all american school and transit buses, conventional school buses, and commercial series transit buses manufactured between december 21, 2002, and february 24, 2005. These buses are equipped with webasto coolant heaters, model dbw 2010, assembled with webasto burner tubes, p/n 303046/26533a manufactured between november 2002 and february 2005. The stainless steel burner tube is made out of a material that is not to specification and could fail prematurely.
Risk
Should the burner tube fail, the coolant heater could overheat, possibly resulting in a fire.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its customers and replace the burner tubes free of charge. The recall began on march 31, 2005. Owners may contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 05V074000 · Recall details

Equipment adaptive/mobilityReported August 30, 2004 · 372 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain blue bird 1999-2005 all american, tc/2000, micro bird, vision, conventional, and commercial series school buses equipped with sure-loc wheelchair securement systems and manufactured between february 17, 1999, and august 13, 2004. Certain sure-lok wheelchair tie-down securement assemblies p/n 8625-13. The sprocket teeth of the retractor assembly may be out of alignment causing the load pawl not to fully seat in the sprocket teeth.
Risk
In the event of a vehicle crash, the wheelchair may not be adequately secured possibly resulting in injuries.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its customers and replace the defective part free of charge. The recall began september 21, 2004. Owners who take their buses to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact at blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 04V426000 · Recall details

Structure: body: roof and pillarsReported July 22, 2004 · 233 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Certain my 2005 blue bird all american model school buses manufactured from may 24 through july 12, 2004. These buses fail to comply with federal motor vehicle safety standard no 221, school bus body joint strength. The rivet pattern may be incorrect in sections of the rear roof sheet joint that attaches to the rear roof cap.
Risk
In the event of a crash, these panels could separate, exposing vehicle occupants to increased risk of injury.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its customers and provide instructions and parts to add additional rivets as needed. The recall began august 16, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 04V362000 · Recall details

Seat beltsReported May 7, 2004 · 291 vehicles affected
What is wrong
School and transit buses equipped with driver's 3-point seat belts with incorrect fasteners.
Risk
In the event of a vehicle crash, the shoulder strap can fail, and the driver could be seriously injured.
Remedy
Blue bird will notify its customers to make an appointment with their blue bird distributor to have the driver's 3-point seat belt upper attaching fasteners replaced free of charge. Owner notification is expected to begin june 8, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 04V222000 · Recall details

StructureReported May 5, 2004 · 297 vehicles affected
What is wrong
All american school buses manufactured between january 10 and april 20, 2004, which the inside panels adjacent to the rear center emergency door (or rear center emergency window on rear engine models) do not comply with federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 221, school bus body joint strength. Adhesive was inadvertentlt omitted from these joints on the affected population.
Risk
The vehicle occupants may be seriously injured in the event of a vehicle crash.
Remedy
Owners will be notified to make an appointment with their blue bird distributor to have the inside rear panels removed and properly adhere the panels. Owner notification is expected to begin june 9, 2004. Owners who take their vehicles to an authorized dealer on an agreed upon service date and do not receive the free remedy within a reasonable time should contact blue bird at 478‑822‑2242.

Recall number 04V213000 · Recall details

See all 13 recalls for the 2005 Blue Bird All American

Defect investigations

School bus stallsOpened May 25, 2005, closed September 27, 2005

This investigation was opened after odi received a complaint from a school bus fleet reporting that three separate buses had stalled unexpectedly while they were loaded with children.reportedly, each time the failure occurred the master battery shut-off switch was identified as being defective.odi opened this investigation to gather specific information and details into these allegations.as a result of odi?s investigation, blue bird has agreed to initate a safety recall to replace the standard nut on the 10/32 stud with a locking nut, check for proper wiring installation , and reposition the wires so that they do not stress the stud.a copy of the recall is attached.blue bird's action resolves the issues raised by this investigation and therefore, this investigation is closed.

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Technical service bulletins for the 2005 Blue Bird All American 8

Bulletins tell dealers how to fix known problems. A warranty extension means the manufacturer pays for that repair for longer.

What 2005 Blue Bird All American owners say

Most recent owner complaints, unedited.

Filed Oct 8, 2004 · Steering · 2,952 miles · OH

Intermittent loss of steering during normal driving conditions.

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Is the 2005 Blue Bird All American reliable?

Owners have filed 1 complaint about the 2005 Blue Bird All American, fewer than a typical All American model year.

What is the most common problem with the 2005 Blue Bird All American?

Steering, with 1 complaint.

How many recalls does the 2005 Blue Bird All American have?

13 recalls, covering seats, electrical system and structure.

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