The brake caliper(s)locked causing damage to the rotors, calipers, pads and ABS sensors. There was a recall from workhorse / navistar and this vehicle was serviced in 2010 at approximately 3,500 miles. I have contacted workhorse/navistar regarding the brake issue however they stated that the recall work was previously done and as such they would not cover the work to be done again. My issue is that this rv has had a second brake system failure wit less than 3,000 miles since the recall work was performed and upon researching this issue with other owners and rv repair shops I learned that this is an ongoing repetitive failure with these braking systems and as such I feel workhorse/navistar should be held accountable to find a fix for the defect and cover the cost to repair the brakes regardless of the recall done in 2005 as they have not corrected the problem but instead sold the workhorse chassis business to amp holding inc.
The worst 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow problems
Ranked by number of owner complaints. Mileage and cost come from what owners wrote.
- Brakes6
- Body1
- Fuel system1
- Visibility1
Problems by type
Tap a problem to see which part fails, at what mileage and in which other years.
- Brakes6
- Body1
- Fuel system1
- Visibility1
Recalls 4
Service brakes, air
- What is wrong
- Fleetwood is recalling 509 my 2001-2008 class a motor homes equipped with axles that include bosch zops or zoht pin slide hydraulic disc brakes. When combined with occasional or seasonal vehicle operation may experience calipers sticking in the applied position. This can result in abnormal heat generation at the wheel end causing brake drag. The driver would normally have warning of the brake drag if undetected by the driver.
- Risk
- The driver would normally detect the brake drag but if undetected the temperature increase at the wheel end can eventually lead to soft pedal conditions due to brake fluid boil, and possible extended stopping distance increasing the risk of a crash.
- Remedy
- Dealers will inspect and replace the necessary components free of charge. Workhorse is handling the remedy for this campaign please see 09v‑110. The manufacturer has not yet provided an owner notification schedule. Owners may contact workhorse at 1‑877‑246‑7731. Workhorse will conduct the owner and dealer notification.
Recall number 09V198000 · Recall details
Equipment: recreational vehicle/trailer
- What is wrong
- Fleetwood is recalling 70,101 my 2003-2007 southwind, pace arrow, bounder, flair, storm, fiesta, terra gas class a motor homes; bounder, discovery, providence, excursion, expedition, revolution, american eagle, american heritage, american tradition diesel class a motor homes; jamboree tioga class c motor homes; and prowler, wilderness, terry, mallard, pioneer, pride and triumph conventional and fifth wheel travel trailers equipped with a two-door refrigerators manufactured by the dometic corporation. The refrigerator may have a defect in the boiler tube. Pressurized coolant solution could be released into an area where an ignition source (gas flame) is present.
- Risk
- If this solution is exposed to an ignition source under certain specific circumstances, it can result in a vehicle fire.
- Remedy
- Fleetwood is working with dometic to repair these refrigerators (please see 08e032). Dometic will repair these refrigerators by installing a secondary burn housing, a thermal fuse, and a melt fuse free of charge. Dometic has retained stericycle inc. To manage this campaign. Stericycle will assist the owner in locating dealerships or service centers and will provide assistance with scheduling of appointments. Owners may contact dometic/stericycle at 1‑888‑446‑5157 or fleetwood at 1‑800‑322‑8216.
Recall number 08V320000 · Recall details
Engine and engine cooling
- What is wrong
- On certain motor homes built on workhorse chassis and equipped with general motors 8.1l v8 engines, improper hardening during the heat treatment process can cause the fuel rail pulse damper retainer clip to fracture, resulting in inadequate retention of the damper. If the damper becomes loose, fuel could be pumped by the fuel pump into the under hood area.
- Risk
- In the presence of an ignition source, a fire could result.
- Remedy
- Workhorse is handling the owner notification and remedy for this campaign (please see 06v225). Dealers will replace the fuel rail pulse damper retainer clips on these engines free of charge. Owners may contact workhorse at 877‑294‑6773 or fleetwood at 1‑800‑322‑8216.
Recall number 06V388000 · Recall details
Steering
- What is wrong
- On certain class a motor homes built on workhorse chassis may have been equipped with incorrect steering intermediate shafts. The spline can strip while the steering wheel is being turned.
- Risk
- This steering condition could result in a loss of steering control, increasing the risk of a crash.
- Remedy
- Workhorse is conducting this recall (please see 06v148000) and will inspect and, if necessary, replace the steering intermediate shafts. Owners may contact workhorse at 1‑877‑294‑6773 or fleetwood at 1‑800‑322‑8216.
Recall number 06V218000 · Recall details
See all 4 recalls for the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow
Defect investigations
Inadvertent slide-out extension movement
This investigation was opened based on odi's receipt of a congressional letter on behalf of a constituent.the constituent reported incidents where the slide out room of his motor home would inadvertently move (extend) during highway use.odi was concerned that a fully extended slide out would degrade the vehicle's dynamic handling characteristics and/or possibly impact an object or another vehicle, resulting in a crash.odi contacted fleetwood and discovered that slide out rooms were installed in motor homes, travel trailers and folding trailers. As part of the investigation odi visited a rv show and the fleetwood paxinos plant to examine slide outs in various new make and model vehicles and gain an understanding of how the systems work.during the investigation odi learned that there are two methods used to extend slide out rooms.some manufacturers use hydraulic systems and others, such as fleetwood, use an electric motor. (continued on page 2)
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Technical service bulletins for the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 2
Bulletins tell dealers how to fix known problems. A warranty extension means the manufacturer pays for that repair for longer.
What 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow owners say
Most recent owner complaints, unedited.
Tl*the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pace arrow motor home. The contact stated that while driving approximately 10 MPH, the front brakes suddenly malfunctioned. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic. The technician diagnosed that the front driver side and passenger side brake calipers were faulty. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was not notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 52,000.
Tl* the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pace arrow. The contact stated that while driving at approximately 45 MPH, the brake pedal was depressed but failed to respond and the ABS warning light illuminated. The contact mentioned that due to the failure the contact was almost involved in a crash. The contact was aware of the federal safety agency campaign number: 09v198000 (service brakes, air) but the vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 50,000.
Tl*the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pacearrow 35g. The contact stated that after filling his tank and driving off from the gas station, he would smell an odor of fuel. The contact inspected the vehicle and noticed that fuel was leaking from the cross-member which was fractured. The contact also noticed that the filler spout was also fractured and compresses against the fuel tank. The vehicle was not taken to a dealer for inspection. The manufacturer was not contacted. The failure mileage was approximately 7,600. The current mileage was approximately 7,800. The VIN was unavailable.
Se-gi products inc, double pained windows "fogging". 05 37c fleetwood pace arrow. Purchased new in 2005 and windows started "fogging" within two years. Contacted fleetwood enterprises and manufacture of windows, we-gi products inc in norco ca. And was denied any consideration due to twelve month warranty time frames. There is restricted vision of both drivers side and passenger side rear view mirrors from drivers seat due to fogging. All other side viewing windows are "fogging" and making visibility a safety concern also. Have moved drivers side rear view mirror ten inches towards the back of the vehicle to enable visibility without having to view through defected window and removed inner pane on passenger side for same reason.
Tl*the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pace arrow motor home. While driving 65 MPH when he depressed the brake pedal in order to slow the vehicle down it extended to the floor. He had to use the jake brake and the emergency brake quickly to stop. The brakes had gotten hot and smells as if they were burning. After the brake cool down he drove to the mechanic shop who stated the left rear caliper fail causing the sensor to over heat. He was told the caliper will be replaced due to a recall but not the sensor. He has to pay for the repairs on the sensor. The manufacturer was contacted who informed him to take the vehicle to a dealer for the replacement of the caliper that was on recall but not the sensor. The failure mileage was 20,000.
Caliper/brake lock up and excessive heat/burning/smoking (ABS sensors burned out due to heat). Manufacturer (workhorse) has aparently known about it for years, delaying remedy parts, and refused to complete "temporary" fix on all 4 wheels after a breakdown on affected vehicle. This causes multiple breakdowns and potentially dangerous situations to both occupants and others around. We were "authorized" for repair on only 2 wheels. Due to break down trip had to be canceled. Rv was left for repairs at an authorized dealer 300 miles from our home. We went back to pick it up 1 month later and after 50 miles, a third brake locked up causing motorhome to start swaying side to side and placed excessive pull on engine trying to get to safety. Brakes will lock up and stay locked up or drag with no notice. We had to retun rv to repair shop again for more "authorization" prior to any repair, causing another trip cancelation. This is over 300 miles from our home causing further undue hardship. We were told it will be "doubtfull" they will authorize 4th wheel repair forcing us again to abandon driving or using vehicle until proper parts are available. We are currently awaiting a response from workhorse.
Tl*the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pace arrow rv. While driving between 60-65 MPH on normal road conditions, the air conditioning system was activated and then failed without warning. Whenever the generator was activated for a period of thirty minutes, at temperatures between 75- 80 degrees, it would automatically shut off without assitance. The vehicle was taken to an authorized dealer for inspection on three separation occasions. The technician stated that the generator was not properly installed, which was a manufacturer design flaw. There were no resolutions. The vehicle was taken to the manufacturer of the generator on a separate occasion for inspection. The failure was contributed to the exhaust pipe being aligned with the gas line into the generator, which could result in a fire. The vehicle was repaired. The VIN was unknown. The failure mileage was 600 and current mileage was 18,000.
Tl*the contact owns a 2005 fleetwood pace arrow rv with a workhorse chassis w22. While driving up a hill at 60 MPH, the rv suddenly stopped without warning. The contact smelled something burning and pulled the vehicle over to the shoulder. The ABS indicator illuminated on the instrument panel. He waited 30 minutes for the chassis to cool down before driving to the dealer. The dealer stated that the ABS sensor was melted and they replaced all the calipers, rotors, and brake pads at the cost of $5,000. The dealer did not use high quality parts and the contact is concerned that the failure could recur. The manufacturer is aware of the failure, but has not provided higher quality parts to permanently correct the failure. The manufacturer is currently not accepting phone calls. The failure mileage was 6,000 and current mileage was 7,500.
While in transit the dining room slide fails and the slide will slide out due to an electrical brake failure. Additionally, the slide is pulled out during transit when hit by cross winds. The slide will then slide out from the body of the coach anywhere from one to eight inches. This has been reported to fleetwood enterprises on several occasions beginning in january 2006 and most recently in january 2007. There have been a total of four failures and three motors replaced in a 12 month period. The coach has been in service for the above related problems for approximately six months whereby the defect still exists. This ultimately results in a major mechanical and structural failure. It is also the only place in which safety restraints are installed. Thereby posing a significant health and safety risk to the passengers of the vehicle and other drivers and vehicles on the country's highways. After numerous failures and in talking with other owners who have experienced the same problem, this problem must be addressed. During my investigation of other fleetwood products, fleetwood has installed slide locks on other models to prevent the slide from releasing during transit or unexpectedly.
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Questions about the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow
Is the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow reliable?
Owners have filed 11 complaints about the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow, 3.7 times a typical Pace Arrow model year.
What is the most common problem with the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow?
Brakes, with 6 complaints, typically around 20,000 miles. Next is body (1).
How many recalls does the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow have?
4 recalls, covering service brakes, air, equipment and engine and engine cooling.
Was there a recall on the 2005 Fleetwood Pace Arrow brakes?
Yes, 1 recall: 09V198000. Check your VIN to see if your car still needs the free repair.
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