Here is a report of a crash that has just occurred in hawaii. Http://khon2.com/2017/06/12/waimanalo-man-killed-in-crash-on-pali-hwy/ the owner of the tesla reports that he felt a bump and then saw a speeding car fly past him and crash into a guard rail. The driver of that car was killed. The back wheel of the tesla has completely fallen off and yet there appears to be no collision damage that would have cause the wheel to come off. Crash investigators need to be told of the multiple instances of tesla wheels and suspensions falling off for no good reason. Please investigate the circumstances of this crash. I believe it is highly probable that this fatal crash was caused by yet another case of tesla suspension failure. Please do not miss this opportunity to properly investigate this crash.
2016 Tesla Model S suspension complaints
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This is a complaint intended to provide further evidence that teslas are experiencing suspension failures and are catching fire at a much higher rate than most other vehicles. I have attached photographs from the current stock of wrecked teslas at a junkyard in the netherlands so as to further prove the argument that these cars have a major safety problem. Here is a link to the stock of tesla wrecks in just that one junkyard: https://www.proxyparts.com/vehicle-stock/ select tesla from the menu. There are currently over 100 wrecked teslas in american junkyards and probably as many again in overseas junkyards. Recent insurance assessments show that teslas are crashing at double the normal rate for comparable cars. Http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/insurance-loss-information select large luxury cars from the drop-down menu. Please investigate the reasons for all of these crashes. Thank you.
Here is a burned out tesla in the junkyard https://www.salvagereseller.com/cars-for-sale/27627757-2016-tesla-model-s-san-diego-ca the car has bio-hazard stickers which indicates that the occupants were probably injured. The pictures show that the front lh upper ball joint has separated and that the wheel has been sliced in half. The drivers air-bag has not deployed so it is unlikely that the suspension damage was caused by a front end collision. There are a great many cases of teslas having suspensions collapse. There are a great many teslas that have caught fire. Please investigate the cause of this accident. Please note that I am not the owner but simply a concerned citizen. The date of the crash and the extent of injuries is an educated guess.
Here is another model s in the salvage yard. Https://www.salvagereseller.com/cars-for-sale/24729347-2016-tesla-model-s-courtice-on the suspension has collapsed on all 4 wheels. The front rh wheel is jammed back against the rear of the well and is rubbing against the hv electrical cables. There is no damage forward of the wheel that would explain why the wheel has been forced backward. This is almost certainly another case of mechanical failure in the tesla suspension. I have compiled a collection of more than 100 similar failures : http://teslabears.club/t/new-thread-keefs-complaints-with-photographs elon musk has alleged that my complaints are fraudulent. I deny this and invite you to view my fully detailed complaints and see if you can find anything that is in any way falsified. (please note that dates of incidents and other minor details are approximations ) photograph of whompy wheel is attached.
Here is another case of a tesla with a broken suspension. This information is taken from a tesla owners forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/63dtws/tesla_model_x_suspension_quality_issue_passenger/?sort=new timothym96 2 points 1 day ago this has also exactly happened to me in my p90d last december. I did hit a pothole on the curve going into the parking garage at about 10mph. Once I got in the garage, I turned the wheel to make a backin into a spot and bam. Wheel fell right off. Pictures: first second. Tesla would not repair it, and body shop in ohio (suburban collision, terrible job they did by the way) "repaired" it for $15,000. I wasn't happy. The owner has posted photographs of the failed parts and I have attached those photographs below. Please investigate. Thank you. Concerned citizen.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard: https://www.salvagereseller.com/cars-for-sale/25125417-2016-tesla-model-s-san-diego-ca the suspension has collapsed and the front wheel has flipped 180 degrees. The top and bottom ball joints have snapped off completely. This is not the result of a collision it is simply mechanical failure. Please take action immediately to prevent further deaths and injury. Concerned citizen.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard: https://www.salvagereseller.com/cars-for-sale/36709406-2016-tesla-model-s-van-nuys-ca the front rh suspension links have snapped and the wheel has skewed sideways at 90 degrees. There is no impact damage forward of the wheel that would account for the wheel getting impacted. The only damage appears to be self inflicted. Please investigate the reason for so many similar failures happening with these teslas. Thank you. Concerned citizen.
Here is a replacement suspension arm for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252541386417 the ball joint has snapped in half. Owners on the forums are complaining of the high cost of suspension repairs and suggesting owners source parts on ebay for diy repairs. Https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/holy-crap-repairs-are-insanely-expensive-beware.86514/ snip: the bolt securing the steering tie to the wheel chassis is broken. Knowing I'm getting fleeced,I call tesla, the replacement part runs about $375. The body shows me a service bulletin put out by tesla. It says in the event any damage to any steering or suspsenion component is encountered, one must replace xxx. This involves basically a new front end. Dropping the batteries, new AC compressor, new engine radiator, new beanies, a ton of work for fixing impact to one wheel at less than 5 MPH. Yaro, feb 22, 2017 rofl. This is such [xxx]. No way you need to replace any of those things. We just repaired a salvage model s that had front end damage. Replaced all the front end body parts and all the other functions work just fine. Also replaced that same control arm that you ripped out because it was slightly bent. Passed alignment with no issues and everything on the car works fine. I 100% guarantee that body shop is reselling all the parts they pulled off. Flatsix911, feb 26, 2017 last edited: feb 26, 2017 just did a quick search on ebay and found the front control arm for the model s readily available for $250. A good automotive tech could replace this part and check the suspension specs with a few hours labor. :cool: 2012-2015 tesla model s left front control arm 1048951-00-b | ebay please investigate these dangerously weak tesla suspensions. Thank you. Very concerned citizen. Parts of this document have been redacted to protect personally identifiable information pursuant to the freedom of information act (foia), 5 u.s.c. 552(b)(6).
Here is a model s freshly arrived in the junkyard. Https://www.copart.com/lot/23451977/photos the suspension has collapsed and the wheels have gone badly whompy. See attached photographs. If the tesla can be recalled for just one possible loose bolt on a seat-belt then why have they not issued a recall or even a warning to owners? Please investigate.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard https://www.copart.com/lot/19177347/photos the suspension has collapsed on all four wheels. The front lh wheel has been sliced completely in half which indicates it was gouged by a broken suspension part whilst still rotating. The hood of the car is almost undamaged which shows that all of the damage could not have been caused by a heavy impact. Even the back wheels are gouged and damaged by the suspension collapse. The number of teslas with broken suspensions showing up in salvage yards is enormous especially considering how few of them are on the roads. Please investigate this problem.
This is a complaint intended to draw your attention to the issue of weaknesses in the tesla suspension components I have attached photographs supplied by an owner and posted on the tmc forum: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/holy-crap-repairs-are-insanely-expensive-beware.86514/page-7 utah tesla club joined:jan 2, 2016 messages:321 location:united states #133cman8, today at 8:07 am I call bs. I had one of my wishbones break (I didnt hit anything though) and they fixed it no problem. Everything was fine except it looked like they had cast a bad part which eventually failed. I was lucky enough to notice it coming out of my driveway and not on the freeway, but regardless they took care of it. This is what mine looked like when I looked underneath to inspect. Please look at the photographs. This car is an accident waiting to happen.
Here is another tesla in the salvage yard. Https://www.copart.com/lot/18901597/photos it has not been in a crash. Air-bags have not been deployed. The only thing wrong with this car is that the back wheel has gone all whompy. It is only by good fortune that this did not result in a crash causing death and injury. This is a heavy high performance car and the suspension components are too weak for the job. Please investigate and issue an immediate recall to prevent further crashes. Not an owner, just a concerned citizen.
Here is a tesla in the salvage yard. Https://www.iaai.com/vehicle?itemid=24209294&rownumber=11&loadrecent=true it has not been in a crash. The airbags have not deployed. The front suspension has collapsed and the front wheels are both skewed inwards towards each other. These tesla suspensions are failing repeatedly and tesla is making it near impossible to have the cars repairew and put back on the road. Https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/holy-crap-repairs-are-insanely-expensive-beware.86514/ it is likely that tesla do not wish to have the cars put back on the road in case the same component snaps again. Photographs attached to this complaint show that bolts snapping is a regular occurrence on teslas. Witness marks on suspension bolts show that technicians are constantly re-tightening bolts. It is hardly surprising that the bolts (welded together in the ball joint stem) ultimately snap off. Note: I am not the owner, the only information I have about this incident is that shown on the salvage auction website. Dates are an approximation. My contact information is included with this submission.
Here is a discussion thread in which an owner complains his suspension broke after a very minor collision. Https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/holy-crap-repairs-are-insanely-expensive-beware.86514/ the photograph on the thread is attached to this complaint. The steel bolt on the ball joint has snapped off completely. This minor collision did not even damage the wheel but the bolt snapped off. The thread goes on to discuss the many other similar failures and because of the huge cost to repair the owner is encouraged to keep the old parts and sell them on ebay. This thread shows that these suspension failures are happening to teslas at a ridiculous rate. Please investigate this urgently and demand a recall for inspections at the very minimum.
Here is a tesla in the salvage yard. Https://www.iaai.com/vehicle?itemid=24188268&rownumber=9&loadrecent=true it has had a slight bump up the rear, most likely caused by the tesla stopping without any warning due to the suspension collapsing. The front wheels are jammed up into the wheel wells. The car is listed as having suspension damage and having a repair cost estimate of $43k. The car has done just 49 miles from new. Please investigate the causes of the suspension failures in the tesla which are happening ridiculously often. Note: I am not the owner. I am reporting using publicly available information and I am doing this as a concerned citizen who has to share the roads with these vehicles. It seems that they are unsafe at any speed.
Here is a tesla in the salvage yard. Https://www.salvagereseller.com/cars-for-sale/20297057-2016-tesla-model-s-mo-bridgeton it has an mo salvage certificate there is no damage to the bodywork and no airbags have been deployed. Once again the suspension appears to have collapsed forcing the wheels up into the wells. It is beyond ridiculous that such a new and expensive car can not be repaired to a sage condition but is instead being written off by the insurer. Please investigate this problem
Here is another tesla in the salvage yard. Https://www.iaai.com/vehicle?itemid=24284013&rownumber=9&loadrecent=true it is listed as having undercarriage damage. The photographs show the car is in pristine condition except that the suspension has collapsed. The rear wheels are displaced towards the rear of the car. The fact that this car is being written off instead of repaired suggests that the undercarriage can not be repaired to a safe condition at a reasonable cost or possibly that tesla does not want to take the risk of the suspension failing again later. Forum posters have complained that after experiencing minor accidents that cause suspension damage their cars are still awaiting repair months later and can not get any word from tesla as to when their cars will be returned to them. Please investigate.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard. Https://m.iaai.com/vehicledetenc.aspx?auctionid=22647195&itemid=24284013&rowid=9&pagesource=vehicleresults# the only damage appears to be that the front suspension has collapsed on both sides and yet it has been declared an insurance write off. This kind of failure is happening at a ridiculous rate on these cars and yet few owners have filed complaints. This may be due to the fact that most tesla owners are also shareholders. This is not the case with other brands of cars. Please investigate this problem.
Here is a model s in the junkyard. Https://m.iaai.com/vehicledetenc.aspx?auctionid=0&itemid=24209294&rowid=12&pagesource=vehicleresults# the front suspension has collapsed causing both wheels to jam up into the wheel arches. This is a near new car and yet it is being sold as an insurance write-off because it is either uneconomic or unsafe to be repaired. This failure has occurred at low speed and the air-bags have not deployed. If that had happened at highway speeds it would have caused a major crash. This car does not have bump stops on the air suspension so that a simple air leak can cause disaster. This situation has been going on for far too long. Please take action to prevent loss of life. Note that I am not the owner, just a concerned citizen. Date of incident is an approximation.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard. It is in immaculate condition except for the fact that the back lh wheel has gone whompy. The wheel and tire are undamaged and it seems impossible that the car could have had an impact that would break the suspension without even breaking a spoke of the wheel. There have been more than 100 similar failures and some of them have caused serious crashes. Please act immediately to recall these dangerous vehicles. Date of incident is an approximation. I am not the owner simply a concerned citizen.
Update to the indianapolis crash that killed two people. This report claims that both occupants were intoxicated. Http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-driver-double-fatal-crash-intoxicated-indianapolis-police/ however, this other report suggests that tests on badly burned victims may be unreliable. Http://killingkillers.blogspot.com.au/p/blood-alcohol-content-ffect.html not withstanding these reports the photographs published here http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ show that the tesla has completely disintegrated and that all of the wheels have snapped off with some of the wheels showing signs of damage whilst rotating. Bearing in mind the many reports of failed tesla suspensions and problems with speed control it is possible that mechanical failure paid a contributing part. The almost complete disintegration of the car is in stark contrast to the claims made by tesla that it is the safest car in the world. Please do not allow the fact that the occupants might have been impaired by alcohol preclude an investigation into possible defects in the tesla that may have played a part in this crash.
Here is a tesla in the junkyard. Https://www.copart.com/lot/35774366/photos?resultindex=8&totalrecords=20&backto=%2flotsearchresults%2f%3ffree%3dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displaystr=search%20results&viewedlot=35774366 it has been in a serious crash. The car shows the signs of collapsed suspension that has caused all wheels to be jammed up in the wheel wells. The front rh wheel assembly has snapped off completely and the wheel/tire damage suggest that the collapse occured whilst the car was still driving forward prior to impact. Please investigate this and also the many similar incidents. Please note that I am not the owner just a concerned citizen. Date is an approximation. Injuries reported are an estimation based on the severity of the crash.
Here is a tesla in the salvage yard. Https://m.iaai.com/vehicledetenc.aspx?auctionid=0&itemid=23919966&rowid=7&pagesource=vehicleresults# the front lh wheel is skewed inwards and over at an angle whilst the rh wheel is pointing straight forward. This indicates a broken steering or suspension component. There is no damage to the wheel and tire and no evidence of an impact hard enough to have broken the suspension. There have been many other cases where tesla suspensions have snapped. Please investigate. Please note: I am not the owner, merely a concerned citizen. Date reported is an estimation. Exact date of incident is unknown to me.
This is another complaint about the tesla suspension weakness. Here are 3 more examples of back wheels that have skewed over without having been in any collision. There is a discussion thread on the norwegian forum elbilforum.no google - skrevet av emne: brukket bakaksel quote: today broke the rear axle! Pour into the incident that it happened on the highway to the airport but just down the street when I was on my way home. Jade me back. But - broken axle, then? And although p85 + is a rocket I'm actually a moderate middle-aged-plus driver who has covered akselrasjinsbehov. Wonder if there are others who have experienced broken axle speed? Have tried to find something on the theme of the forum but did not follow up something. Is there an exhausted topic so sorry I post.. I have attached 4 photos of cars with broken axles that were posted on the norwegian forum. This is a highly dangerous situation but no warning has been issued to owners and the forum posters are abusing any owners that dare to post complaints. Please take immediate action.
Left wheel fell off from what appears to be a broken bolt controlling lower control arm. The car was backing into a driveway at low speeds with a sudden thud. The left front was resting on the tire with the tire turned at 90 degrees. The lower control arm was no longer attached with the bolt broken. See pictures.
Here is another tesla in the junkyard. Https://www.copart.com/lot/33597246/photos?resultindex=10&totalrecords=23&backto=%2flotsearchresults%2f%3ffree%3dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displaystr=search%20results&viewedlot=33597246 photographs show that the front supension has fallen apart and the wheel and tire have been destroyed whilst the car was still in motion. There is no collision damage that would explain the failure. There have been over 100 similar failures. No other car on the road has such a high rate of suspension failures and wheels torn off. Owners have reported suspension failures even under gentle driving conditions. In an emergency situation when the owner brakes and swerves the suspension is extremely likely to snap off. The suspension compnents are too weak and have not been tested under conditions similar to what can occur on the highway or at an interesection when emergency braking is applied. Please investigate this.
Here is a report of a tesla crash in china that injured 2 people. Https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=utf-8&u=http%3a%2f%2fhk.apple.nextmedia.com%2fnews%2fart%2f20160621%2f19662689&edit-text=&act=url the car suffered unintended acceleration and then the wheels fell off. That is a bit of a worry, to say the very least. Please issue a recall.
Here is a press report of a tesla crash in the netherlands. Https://translate.google.com.au/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=utf-8&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.regio15.nl%2fnieuws%2flijst-weergave%2f32-ongevallen%2f25574-twee-gewonden-bij-ongeval-op-de-zuidweg&edit-text=&act=url the photographs show that the tread on the rear tire has been completely worn away before the suspension snapped off. The wheel is gouged in half. People were injured in the crash which was undoubtedly caused by this suspension failure. Please look at the photograph and demand a recall of this dangerous vehicle.
Here is a tesla model s just a few months old and already in the salvage yard. Https://m.iaai.com/vehicledetenc.aspx?auctionid=0&itemid=23505090&rowid=4&pagesource=vehicleresults there is no crash damage, no airbags have been deployed. The entire rear suspension of the car has simply snapped off. The suspension components are much too fragile for a car of this weight and power. It is beyond ridiculous that after more than 100 cars have had suspension failures there has not been a recall. Please order a recall immediately. Thank you.
Here is a report of a crash in germany. Http://bnn.de/lokales/bruchsal/tesla-schlaegt-in-sperrwand-ein the front tire is peeled off the rim. That could only have happened before the collision and is almost certainly caused by failure of the suspension. It would be almost impossible for the wheel to have turned a full revolution and peeled off the tire after the collision. The driver was seriously injured. Please take immediate action.
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