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2008 Pierce Arrow XT problems

The most common problem on the 2008 Pierce Arrow XT is engine and cooling. Its complaint count is close to a typical Arrow XT model year.

Typical yearClose to a typical year
Owner complaints
1
Recalls
16
Service bulletins
342 warranty
Worst area
Engine

The worst 2008 Pierce Arrow XT problems

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  • Engine
    1

Recalls 16

Electrical system: softwareReported January 2, 2019 · 994 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2004-2018 Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Impel, Quantum and Velocity aerial vehicles. The aerial device may unexpectedly rotate to the right when the ladder is being extended.
Risk
If the aerial device moves in an unexpected direction, the ladder may contact an object, such as a building or an electrical wire, increasing the risk of injury.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will reprogram the aerial control module, free of charge. The recall began February 28, 2019. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1‑888‑974‑3723. Pierce's number for this recall is 74B295.

Recall number 19V022000 · Recall details

StructureReported July 11, 2018 · 17 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 2007-2017 Pierce Velocity, Impel, Arrow-XT, Quantum, and Enforcer emergency response vehicles equipped with 75ft aerial devices with a 21 inch or 28 inch limited retraction bracket. The bracket on the aerial device may detach from the aerial and fall to the ground.
Risk
If the bracket falls, it could strike a person below.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will install additional hardware to mount the limited retraction bracket, free of charge. The recall began on August 22, 2018. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1‑888‑974‑3723. Pierce's number for this recall is 74B290.

Recall number 18V463000 · Recall details

Power train: axle assembly: axle shaftReported May 30, 2017 · 225 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce Manufacturing (Pierce) is recalling certain 1999-2013 Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Quantum and Velocity fire trucks equipped with the electric All-steer rear steering option. The affected vehicles have rear steer axle shafts that were not properly heat treated.
Risk
Axle shafts that are not properly heat treated may break and potentially disable the vehicle, increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will replace the rear steer axle shafts, free of charge. An interim notice was mailed on July 24, 2017. The recall began June 3, 2020. Owners may contact Pierce customer service at 1‑888‑974‑3723.

Recall number 17V348000 · Recall details

EquipmentReported October 22, 2013 · 3,115 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce Manufacturing Inc. (Pierce) is recalling certain model year 2000-2009 Enforcer and model year 2000-2010 Dash, Lance, and Arrow XT vehicles. While raising or lowering the cab as part of vehicle maintenance, the mounts on which the cab tilt cylinders pivot may fatigue and fail allowing the cab to fall until the safety catch activates.
Risk
If a person is in the path of the moving cab when a mount fails, the person may be hit by the falling cab, increasing the risk of injury.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners, and dealers will affix new safety signs advising the operator to stay clear of the cab while it is being tilted, free of charge. The recall began on January 6, 2014. Owners may contact Pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000. Pierce's recall number is 74B240.

Recall number 13V525000 · Recall details

Structure: body: doorReported November 10, 2011 · 59 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce manufacturing (pierce) is recalling certain model year 2005, 2008-2011 arrow xt, custom contender, dash, enforcer, impel, quantum, saber, and velocity 75 foot hal (heavy aluminum ladder) fire apparatus bodies vehicles manufactured from may 17,2005, through october 13, 2011, that may be equipped with dual scba cylinder storage compartments. These compartments extend inboard horizontally from the side of the rear body. The scba compartment door latch orientation may have been manufactured incorrectly, allowing the door to accidentally open while the vehicle is in motion. The door may open without warning and without knowledge to the driver.
Risk
If the door opens, the scba cylinders may fall out of the compartment and onto the roadway, increasing the risk of a crash or injury to pedestrians.
Remedy
Pierce dealers will notify owners, and will install a flat reinforcement plate that spans the length of the scba door. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began on december 5, 2011. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 11V551000 · Recall details

Electronic stability control (ESC)Reported November 1, 2011 · 724 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce manufacturing (pierce) is recalling certain model year 2007-2011 arrow xtand velocity, model year 2008-2011 custom contender, impel, quantum and model year 2009-2011 saber emergency trucks, equipped with meritor wabco electronic stability control (ESC) modules, manufactured from december 19, 2007, through october 7, 2011. Under certain road and driving conditions, vehicle body roll and road inclination characteristics may adversely affect the slip angle calculation of the electronic stability control (ESC) system. This might cause the ESC to perceive an over steering situation and therefore apply the outer wheel brake on the front axle until the vehicle is perceived to be stable.
Risk
If the driver is slow to react during this ESC intervention, the vehicle may deviate from the intended line of travel, increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy
Pierce is working with meritor wabco and will replace the control module free of charge. The safety recall began on december 16, 2011. Owners may contact meritor wabco at 1‑248‑435‑8001 or pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 11V527000 · Recall details

Vehicle speed control: accelerator pedalReported April 26, 2011 · 5,022 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 1999-2008 arrow xt, dash, lance, and enforcer fire apparatus manufactured from june 22, 1999, through may 12, 2008, and equipped with an electronic accelerator pedal. After repeated use with excessive force, the accelerator pedal arm may bend and cause the pedal to move closer to the floor. If the pedal arm bends far enough, the pedal may contact the cab floor without warning and stick in the full throttle position.
Risk
If the accelerator pedal becomes stuck, the operator may lose control of the vehicle increasing the risk of a crash.
Remedy
Dealers will remove the existing accelerator arm and install a redesigned pedal arm free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin on or about may 9, 2011. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 11V255000 · Recall details

Engine and engine coolingReported February 14, 2011 · 108 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2008-2009 arrow xt vehicles built with caterpillar c13 2007 engines. The three upper air cleaner bracket fasteners may loosen and fall out. If this occurs the air cleaner and bracket may fall onto the engine and start a fire.
Risk
If an under cab fire occurs, the engine operation could be affected and a crash may occur.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners and dealers will repair the vehicles free of charge. The safety recall is expected to begin during may 2011. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑888‑974‑3723.

Recall number 11V097000 · Recall details

SteeringReported September 21, 2010 · 2,652 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 1998 through 2008 arrow xt, lance, velocity, enforcer, impel, and dash custom fire apparatus vehicles manufactured from may 30, 1998 through november 25, 2008. The steering gear bracket may fracture and break. If this occurs the steering gear may detach from the vehicle.
Risk
Detachment of the steering gear will result in a loss of steering control that could cause a crash.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners and dealers will install a new steering gear mounting bracket free of charge. The safety recall began on october 12, 2010. Owners are being instructed to inspect the steering gear bracket prior to each trip. The remedy to repair this defect is expected to begin no earlier the january 31, 2011. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑888‑974‑3723.

Recall number 10V423000 · Recall details

Service brakes, hydraulic: foundation components: disc: caliperReported July 8, 2010 · 45 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2010 arrow xt, dash, enforcer, impel, quantum, and velocity fire trucks manufactured from october 11, 2006 through june 16, 2010 and equipped with meritor wabco ex225 rear disc brakes and onspot automatic tire chains. The meritor wabco ex225 rear disc brake caliper may interfere with the onspot automatic tire chain brackets. This interference may restrict the caliper from full movement.
Risk
If this interference occurs, braking performance may be reduced without warning and a crash may occur.
Remedy
Dealers will install new automatic tire chain brackets. The new brackets provide additional clearance for the full actuation of the disc brake calipers. This service will be performed free of charge. The safety recall began in july 2010. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 10V317000 · Recall details

Engine and engine coolingReported May 7, 2010 · 827 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2006 through 2010 arrow xt, dash, lance, quantum, and velocity emergency vehicles manufactured from december 20, 2006, through february 1, 2010, equipped with detroit diesel series 60 engines. The engine may shut down unexpectedly when a diesel particulate filter over temperature condition is detected.
Risk
Unexpected emergency vehicle engine shutdown under certain conditions could hamper rescue operations and place the public at risk.
Remedy
Owners will be notified by detroit diesel and detroit diesel will repair the vehicles free of charge by reprogramming the engine control logic to illuminate a malfunction indicator light without requesting engine shutdown. Please see daimler trucks' defect report 10e-005. The safety recall began on may 28, 2010. Owners may contact daimler trucks at 1‑800‑547‑0712 or pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 10V195000 · Recall details

Engine and engine coolingReported October 6, 2009 · 131 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2008 and 2009 fire trucks manufactured between april 1, 2008 and september 30, 2009, equipped with cummins isb cm2150, isc cm2150, isl cm2150, ism cm876, and isx cm871 model diesel engines. The vehicles may be designed with a hard wired, dash-mounted switch that enables the vehicle operator to inhibit aftertreatment diesel particulate filter regeneration in environments where the operator believes it may be unsafe for elevated exhaust temperatures. Due to an issue with the logic in the ECM software in these engines, the switch may not function correctly, leading the operator to believe that the switch is in "inhibit" mode when it is not.
Risk
This condition will permit hot exhaust gases to exit the vehicle tailpipe, increasing the risk of melting or burning of nearby surfaces, or a fire.
Remedy
Pierce is working with cummins to repair the engines. Cummins is conducting this campaign and will provide the remedy free of charge. Please see cummins recall campaign 09e-046. The safety recall is expected to begin during october 2009. Owners may contact cummins at 1-800-diesels (1‑800‑343‑7357) or pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 09V389000 · Recall details

Air bags: side/window: curtainReported August 31, 2009 · 28 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling certain model year 2007 through 2009 fire trucks equipped with side-roll protection systems. The sensor designed to detect vehicle roll can malfunction resulting in an inadvertent deployment of the protection system.
Risk
Inadvertent deployment of the side-roll protection system could result in a vehicle crash or injury to an out of position occupant.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners and the vehicles will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on august 31, 2009. Owners may contact pierce toll-free at 1‑888‑974‑3723.

Recall number 09V341000 · Recall details

SteeringReported June 8, 2009 · 185 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling 185 model year 2008 and 2009 custom fire trucks manufactured between january 1, 2008 and may 31, 2009, equipped with meritor wabco steering angle sensors (sas). Internal friction can develop between the sensor gears and the sensor housing as a result of external forces experienced on the vehicle including vibration. If developed friction is great enough, the driving tab of the sas can shear as the driver turns the steering wheel.
Risk
With a broken sas driving tab, the electronic stability control (ESC) will not function properly, which could possibly result in a vehicle crash.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners and the vehicles will be repaired free of charge. The safety recall began on july 2, 2009. Owners may contact pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 09V203000 · Recall details

Latches/locks/linkages: doors: latchReported April 28, 2009 · 257 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce manufacturing is recalling 257 my 2008 emergency vehicles manufactured between june 1 and october 31, 2008, equipped with trimark door latches. These latches fail to comply with the transverse pull static load requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no 206, "door locks and door retention components." the latches may "pop" into the secondary locking position.
Risk
In the event of a vehicle crash, the door would not have primary closing security which could possibly lead to injury of the vehicle occupant.
Remedy
Pierce will notify owners and repair the vehicles free of charge. The safety recall began on may 4, 2009. Owners may contact pierce customer service toll-free at 1‑888‑974‑3723.

Recall number 09V137000 · Recall details

Engine and engine cooling: engine: dieselReported October 31, 2008 · 76 vehicles affected
What is wrong
Pierce is recalling 76 my 2007-2008 arrow xt and velocity fire trucks equipped with caterpillar c13 diesel engines. The extension pipes attached to the aftertreatment regeneration device (ard) may develop a hole, and heat and flame may escape during a regeneration of the diesel particulate filter.
Risk
This may result in a fire hazard.
Remedy
Pierce is working with caterpillar to repair these vehicles (please see 08e054). Owners may contact caterpillar at 1‑800‑447‑4986 or pierce at 1‑920‑832‑3000.

Recall number 08V574000 · Recall details

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Defect investigations

Unintended aerial platform movementOpened August 21, 2018, closed April 8, 2019

This Preliminary Evaluation (PE) was opened August 21, 2018 based on 5 consumer complaints for unintended aerial platform movement on the subject vehicles. ODI complaint numbers 11101301, 11101303, 11101304, 11101305 and 11105134 allege there is a defect with the aerial ladder control mechanism that resulted unintended movement.ODI conducted several field inspections, meeting with local fire houses and municipalities to better understand and witness the alleged defect. In addition, ODI met with Pierce and the Fleet Operations Manager of the Montgomery County Fire and Rescue Service?s Central Fleet to discuss the known complaints, possible attributing factors and vehicles to be tested/instrumented.On November 30, 2018 Pierce met with ODI staff at DOT headquarters and agreed that a safety defect existed on their vehicle aerial devices. The subject vehicles may unintentionally rotate right when a command to extend the aerial ladder is given. This unintentional movement is the result of faulty Random Access Memory (RAM) chip configuration on the aerial ladder controller. If the aerial device is operated in this manner it may contract an obstruction, potentially causing property damage or injury. In addition, it may hinder the ability to perform emergency functions as intended. The effected population includes 886 2004?2018 model year Pierce Arrow XT, Dash, Enforcer, Impel, Quantum and Velocity fire trucks.This Preliminary Evaluation is closed with Safety Recall 19V‑022.

PE18009

Front suspension ball joint failureOpened February 27, 2015, closed November 20, 2015

On February 27th 2015, the Office of Defects Investigations (ODI) opened Preliminary Evaluation PE15-008 to investigate front steer wheel separations on 2004 model year Pierce fire trucks (manufactured with TAK-4 independent front suspensions ) caused byball joint failures.The investigation was based on one steering related consumer complaint, three media reports alleging front steer wheel separation incidents, and a service bulletin outlining the maintenance requirements for the ball joints used in the TAK4 suspension.The consumer complaint (ODI #10671053), received on January 8th 2015, alleged a 2007 Pierce TAK-4 equipped fire truck was not steering correctly.The three media reports of Pierce TAK-4 equipped fire trucks that experienced front steer wheel separation events included two in Baltimore, MD (July and August 2014) and a third in Anne Arundel County, MD (December 2014).The technical service bulletin (#355 issued 12/15/2014) was intended to be a reminder for subject vehicle owners to inspect their TAK-4 suspension and ball joints pursuant to Pierce?s published maintenance schedule.The bulletin outlined how improperly maintained subject ball joints could wear or become damaged during normal use and then potentially separate.A diagram of the TAK-4 front suspension (Figure 1) illustrates the location of both ball-joint assemblies on the suspension that connect the wheel spindles to the A-arm assemblies.(Continued on page 2)

PE15008

Williams Controls Accelerator PedalsOpened May 12, 2011, closed July 19, 2011

On April 26, 2011, Pierce Manufacturing, Inc. (Pierce) notified the federal safety agency that it had decided certain Pierce fire trucks, manufactured between June 22, 1999, and May 12, 2008, contain a safety related defect. Pierce stated that certain model year 1999 through 2008 Arrow XT, Dash, Lance, and Enforcer vehicles contain a Williams Controls, Inc. (Williams Controls) suspended electronic accelerator pedal that may become bent after repeated use with excessive force. If the pedal arm bends far enough, the pedal may contact the cab floor without warning and stick in the full throttle position. If the accelerator pedal becomes stuck, the operator may lose control of the vehicle increasing the risk of a crash. This issue was assigned recall number 11V‑255.On May 12, 2011, RMD mailed an information request (IR) letter to Williams Controls requesting a list of customers who purchased the same or similar defective accelerator pedals.Williams Controls responded to RMD's IR letter on June 9, 2011 with a list those companies who purchased the same accelerator pedal.The list was submitted to the federal safety agency's Office of the Chief Counsel under a request for confidentiality.Williams Controls' response letter outlined several key points.First, it was noted that these pedals, item number 131507, are generic parts that are purchased by engineering staffs in accordance with their own specifications.According to Williams Controls, Pierce modified their purchased pedals post-purchase and this modification reduced the strength of the accelerator pedal assembly.Also, Williams Controls stated that it has, never had a warranty claim or other notice, other than by Pierce on their modified pedal, due to lever arm permanent deformation for item number 131507.While Williams Controls submitted a list of companies that purchased item number 131507, it noted that it did not sell the same or similar defective pedal assemblies to any company as the subject pedals were modified by Pierce.This Equipment Query is satisfied as, because of modifications not conducted by the pedal manufacturer, the same or similar pedals were not sold to other vehicle manufacturers and no other vehicles should be affected.However, RMD will continue to monitor recall activity to see if any similar issues are found in other manufacturers' vehicles.This EQ is closed.

EQ11003

Technical service bulletins for the 2008 Pierce Arrow XT 34

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What 2008 Pierce Arrow XT owners say

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Filed Aug 13, 2012 · Engine · 10,000 miles · NC · fire

Our 2008 pierce fire tanker/pumper truck was responding to a blaze outside of corolla in the outer banks. According to the driver, when he came to where to the truck was needed to assist the other trucks controlling the fire, he saw a red light illuminate on the dash and immediately a ball of flames errupted from underneath the truck. No damage was done inside the cab but alot of wiring and other components were damamged. The truck was towed to an authorized detroit diesel repair facility upon which it was determined the turbo had a catastrophic failure which casued the fire. The truck was eventually repaired but I have been given to other explanation or reports as to why the turbo failed prematurely. This truck has very low mileage and has been maintained.

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Owners have filed 1 complaint about the 2008 Pierce Arrow XT, close to a typical Arrow XT model year.

What is the most common problem with the 2008 Pierce Arrow XT?

Engine and cooling, with 1 complaint.

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16 recalls, covering electrical system, structure and power train.

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