2005 allegro (tiffin) phaeton on freightliner xc chassis with catapillar c7 engine: traveling from sarasota, fl to san diego, ca starting august 18, 2009 the engine began overheating on an ever more frequent basis until august 27, 2009, when traversing the mountains west of san diego on interstate 8 we were forced to stop on the side of the highway every one half to one mile to cool down the engine to a workable level. These frequent stops created a hazard for everyone else traveling that stretch of highway and created a risk of engine failure and/or fire in a generally remote area. During one such stop we did scrape the side of the vehicle on a guard rail under a railroad trestle. The damage has not yet been estimated but I expect it to be approximately $3,000. The problem was eventually traced by freightliner san diego to a too short crankcase blowby vent on the engine that allowed crankcase oil mist to be sprayed on the forward side of the radiator by the cooling fan. Subsequently, dust and dirt thrown up during driving was absorbed by the oil and essentially blocked the air flow over the radiator. After some miles (ours was at about 49000+ miles) the blockage becomes great enough to cause almost total failure. Given its location the side of the radiator affected is not visible to inspection without significant effort. The solution was to remove the radiator and the air charge cooler, clean them and reinstall them. In addition, freightliner provided a replacement for the crankcase blowby tube that is longer and sends the oil below the radiator (I.e., this is a known problem at freightliner). I do not have the original tube. The cost for the cleaning was $2,403.78 and the part was $256.58 (done at separate facilities).
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Recalls 5
Equipment: recreational vehicle/trailer
- What is wrong
- Tiffin motorhomes is recalling certain recreational vehicles equipped with 1200-series norcold refrigerators. The population of refrigerators being addressed contains either a sensing algorithm or thermal switch to shut off power to the refrigerator when high temperatures are detected in order to prevent a potential fire. The response times of the sensor algorithm and thermal switch devices to stop power are not sufficient.
- Risk
- The sensing algorithm or thermal switch installed to shut off power to the refrigerator when high temperatures are detected due to a possible hydrogen gas leak may not shut off in sufficient time to prevent a fire.
- Remedy
- Tiffin motorhomes is working with norcold to identify and notify any affected owners. Owners will be instructed to contact norcold dealers to receive the remedy free of charge. Please see norcold's defect report 10e-049 for additional information. The safety recall began on february 17, 2011. Owners may contact norcold at 1‑800‑767‑9101.
Recall number 11V082000 · Recall details
Equipment: recreational vehicle/trailer
- What is wrong
- Tiffin is recalling 3,507 my 2004-2007 allegro, allegro bay and allero bus, my 2004-2005 phaeton and my 2005-2007 zephyr motor homes equipped with a two-door refrigerator manufactured by the dometic corporation. The refrigerator may have a defect in the boiler tube. Pressurized coolant solution could be released into an area where an ignition source (gas flame) is present.
- Risk
- Release of coolant under certain conditions could ignite and result in a fire.
- Remedy
- Tiffin will be working with dometic in order to repair these refrigerators (please see 08e032). Dometic will repair these refrigerators by installing a secondary burn housing, a thermal fuse, and a melt fuse free of charge. Dometic has retained stericycle inc. To manage this campaign. Stericycle will assist the owner in locating dealerships or service centers and will provide assistance with scheduling of appointments. Owners may contact dometic/stericycle at 1‑888‑446‑5157 or tiffin at 256‑356‑8661.
Recall number 08V509000 · Recall details
Electrical system
- What is wrong
- On certain motor homes containing a 50 amp transfer switch built by intellitec, the material used for the wire lugs was changed from nickel plated to copper lugs. The copper lugs are softer than the nickel plated and do not retain the torque of the screw that clamps the wire connector.
- Risk
- When the torque is relaxed, the lugs can become loose resulting in excessive heat within the connected wire that could result in a fire.
- Remedy
- Dealers will replace the changeover box. The recall began on july 21, 2005. Owners may contact tiffin at 1‑256‑356‑8661.
Recall number 05V307000 · Recall details
Equipment: recreational vehicle/trailer
- What is wrong
- On certain recreational vehicles, the washer/dryer in the rear of the motor home can move.
- Risk
- A vehicle occupant could be injured if the washer/dryer moved.
- Remedy
- Tiffin has provided the owners with a repair kit and installation instructions. The recall began on january 7, 2005. Owners may contact tiffin at 1‑256‑356‑0205.
Recall number 05V145000 · Recall details
Seat belts: front: buckle assembly
- What is wrong
- The seat belt assemblies on certain motor homes fail to comply with the loop load requirements of federal motor vehicle safety standard no. 209. "seat belt assemblies."
- Risk
- The seat belt buckle may unlatch in the event of a vehicle crash, possibly resulting in personal injury to the seat occupant.
- Remedy
- Amsafe will replace the buckles. Owners should contact amsafe at 574‑266‑8330 or tiffin at 1‑256‑356‑8661.
Recall number 04V383000 · Recall details
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Defect investigations
Potential movement of washer/dryer
In january 2005, tiffin issued a service bulletin (unnumbered) entitled ?service bulletin for potential movement of washer/dryer.?the bulletin addressed the possibility that the washer and dryer could move unexpectedly while the motorhome is being driven.during discussions with tiffin, odi learned that two incidents had been reported where the washer and dryer fell or tipped over into the living space.on april 7th, 2005, tiffin notified odi that after further review, they had decided that this issue should be resolved by conducting a safety recall campaign and subsequently filed safety recall 05v‑145 (copy attached). Tiffan will be installing a kit that prevents the movement of the washer and dryer assembly. This action resolves the issues raised by this investigation. This investigation is closed.
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Technical service bulletins for the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton 12
Bulletins tell dealers how to fix known problems. A warranty extension means the manufacturer pays for that repair for longer.
- CSA-043 fccc
- This was a letter to our dealers we sent out when we first heard of the Kidde fire extinguisher recall,...
- Tiffin motorhomes: TSB contains notification of owner letter. select document search button below. two...
- Rv: instructions on how to install the charge solenoid wiring in a rv or vehicle. ta
- Tiffin motorhomes: TSB contains notification of owner letter. select document search button below. all...
- Tiffin motorhomes: exhaust tip and pipes to the muffler on phaeton models needs to be installed. ta
- Tiffin motorhomes: TSB contains notification of owner letter. select document search button below. some...
- Tiffin motorhomes service campaign: a wire is not hooked up and needs to be. the navigational system will...
- Tiffin motorhomes: there is a potential problem with the water heater by pass in your unit. there is a...
- Tiffin motorhomes service campaign: switch box grounding lug. the tap screw is not tight enough. this...
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Questions about the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton
Is the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton reliable?
Owners have filed 1 complaint about the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton, fewer than a typical Phaeton model year.
What is the most common problem with the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton?
Engine and cooling, with 1 complaint.
How many recalls does the 2005 Tiffin Phaeton have?
5 recalls, covering equipment, electrical system and seat belts.
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